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Atheist and Christian authors debate religion

Published: Sunday, September 20, 2009

Updated: Monday, September 21, 2009

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Rami Rotlewicz

The Great Debate on the controversial topic of the existence of God placed two award-winning scholars head-to-head in the UCF Arena on Thursday.

Atheist and antitheist Christopher Hitchens, who referred to religion as “immoral, mythical and man-made,” argued with conservative Christian Dinesh D’Souza on the existence of God, Christianity and other religions, and science and reason.

“Anyone who says we are either the product of, let alone the object of, a design has yet to produce one scintilla of evidence that would withstand any kind of clear review in any kind of journal,” said Hitchens, who is the author of God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything.

Statements like these inspired vociferous reactions from the crowd of nearly 7,000 that filled the UCF Arena.

A similar debate held in New York City, featuring the same two authors, failed to draw even 15 percent of the Orlando crowd, said Stanley Oakes, debate moderator and president of The King’s College in New York.

“It showed that people actually care about these issues and it’s not a waste of time to ask these types of questions,” said Robert Cooper, freshman computer science major and atheist.

The event was as good of a reason as any to get a large group of students and friends together despite the controversial nature of the debate, Cooper said. 

Cooper said his only complaint was the lack of specific faith-based questions, rather than comments on faith as a general idea.

“When we look at the fine-tuned universe, a universe that appears to be fine-tuned for life, we see in it a clear signature of a designer,” said D’Souza, author of the The Enemy at Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11. “It would be as though I would enter the lottery in all 50 states and win every time.  It would be reasonable to infer a plot; the coincidence is far too great.”

General concepts and ideas about religion’s place in modern society drew the most attention from the speakers. Hot-button issues such as homosexuality were left untouched.  However, that’s not to say the evening went without controversy.  

At one point, D’Souza concentrated his defense on the idea that Christianity is innocent when it comes to religious violence by asking, ‘Where is the Christian Bin Laden, and where is the Christian Al Qaeda?’ To which Hitchens responded that he hoped there was a better way of advocating Christianity than simply saying, ‘Hey, at least it’s not Al Qaeda guys.’ 

 “If you were analyzing it for effectiveness of argument, D’Souza was probably a little more elegant, while Hitchens kind of moused around,” said Josh Arroyo, a sophomore mathematics major and Christian.

Arroyo said if people were going to look at any religion from an outside perspective, they would see an idea that goes completely against the interpretation of reality.

The strong student response brought up the question of how religion and atheism are accepted at a diversified university like UCF.

“The liberal nature of a college campus is that no one really cares about what other people believe and it becomes a problem when it’s being pushed on somebody,” Arroyo said.

This refusal to accept another student’s right to expression can become an issue, which events like Thursday’s debate attempt to prevent, Cooper said.

“I feel more comfortable on campus than I originally imagined, in spite of seemingly violent opposition from religious groups on campus,” he said.

This balance between the advantages and disadvantages of religion isn’t new to the debaters.

“If you’re going to say [religion] makes people behave better, you must be just as willing to say it’s just as likely to make people behave worse,” Hitchens said.

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6 comments

Arthur King
Sat Mar 20 2010 21:47
There is absolutely no connection between god and religion. All religions are political animals, all dedicated to control of humanity for some ulterior purpose. In christianity, it is control of labor (slaves) for the profits of capitalism (the aristocracy).
UCF Greek
Mon Sep 21 2009 11:36
"Statements like these inspired vociferous reactions from the crowd of nearly 7,000 that filled the UCF Arena."

Nick, as much as I hate to take away from the rather good article you have written, I really wonder what you mean by this comment. Sure, there were some loud cheers and such, but nothing so much as to use the word "vociferous" in your article. I felt it was rather tame, and even when Hitchens started to go off on a slight tangent, people really were good enough to let him speak. And most of the "responses" were done after they each spoke (occasionally, Hitchens would get some laughter, while D'Souza got some mild cheers here and there during his moments).

Barbara K. Lee
Mon Sep 21 2009 11:09
Super article, Nick! I am very proud to call you my son!!! I DO believe in a higher power and pray every day thanking God for my blessings and for the safety of those that I love. structured religion. rules & regulations is a whole different ball game... another subject fro debate?! I too, will look forward to reading more of your articles!
Baby Jesus
Mon Sep 21 2009 08:03
Thomas,

A good home grown example would be white supremacist. Many white supremest have a Christian following. I find it interesting that since they believe in Jesus, they will go to heaven while atheist that may do good in this world will obviously rot in hell for eternity.

But as much as these Christians will say that they believe in Jesus, they will not practice many of its teachings that require them to give up their life styles. Are you willing to give all your money to a homeless man who needs it?

Thomas Hellinger
Mon Sep 21 2009 05:19
"At one point, D’Souza concentrated his defense on the idea that Christianity is innocent when it comes to religious violence by asking, ‘Where is the Christian Bin Laden, and where is the Christian Al Qaeda?’" This is a horrible argument that really shows the speaker's ignorance. There are plenty of Christian terrorist groups, however since they have not targeted Americans in the same manner that Al Qaeda has American's are largely ignorant of them.
Brandon Lee Tenney
Mon Sep 21 2009 05:00
Great article, Nick. It makes me proud to have been a Knight, seeing UCF host events like this. This debate is one that should be conducted in just such a forum -- and should always, above all, be representative of the power of peaceful discussion rather than violence.

Thanks for keeping alumni like myself up to date and informed, Nick. Looking forward to reading many more articles written by you in The Future. (See what I did there? Eh?!)







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