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Do not expect UCF’s help post-graduation

Published: Sunday, February 7, 2010

Updated: Sunday, February 7, 2010 17:02

At 23 years old, graduating from the University of Central Florida with my bachelor's in philosophy and a double minor in women's studies and political science was not only the highlight of my academic career, but of my life.

Never in my entire existence had I felt such clarity or purpose, and it was because I received an education I was passionate about. I learned theories and ideologies I could take with me outside of the classroom and actively put them into practice.

I felt this way not only because I graduated with a 3.9 GPA and a clear plan to get into law school, but because I knew when I walked across that stage that I had done something meaningful with the previous four years of my life. When I was immersed into the wonderful world of academia, I made a commitment to myself to make it count. And I did.

Utilizing all my access, privilege and opportunity to the fullest extent, I completed an internship with Sen. Bill Nelson, acted as a liaison for the women's studies program alongside Kathleen Oliver, was a professor's assistant for Introduction to Philosophy Honors alongside Jennifer Lisa Vest, an instructor's assistant for Third Wave Feminism alongside Leandra Preston, was vice president of our campus National Organization for Women as well as program coordinator for Animal Safehouse.

Four months after graduation, I was still committed to continuing my role as a member of UCF's academic community, so I volunteered to help facilitate the New Women's Studies Faculty Reception on Sept. 21, 2009.    

During this time, I was facing the worst financial bind I had ever experienced. I had been in and out of Career Services, was seeking guidance from past professors and advisers, sifted through every classified ad and online career site I could get my hands on and still, nothing.

Therefore, after the reception, I took some time to introduce myself to President Hitt in order to express the lack of guidance and interest in my well-being that his very university demonstrated post-graduation and pre-law school.

When I told him about my past academic endeavors, including my major and minors, he suggested that, although it was "great" I took courses that were meaningful or interesting, perhaps I should have chosen a path with more economic demand.

He then directed me to send him an e-mail reminding him about our conversation so he could offer some assistance.

In my e-mail, written Sept. 21, 2009, I wrote to President Hitt as someone with great respect and prestige at one of the biggest universities in the nation asking for some guidance.

I was so distraught that I was starting to feel that UCF did not have any concern for my success or well-being because I am no longer paying tuition.

I did not want to think that the academy to which I have devoted the past five years of my life had become such a business that they could not help one of their alumni even when she is attempting to give back what she has gained from her education there. 

I had immense regard for President Hitt's role in making UCF what it is today, and this was why I decided to approach him with this request, fully aware of how incredibly busy he must be.

The bottom line is I have yet to receive a response. Have students become just another commodity for a multi-million dollar industry? And when there are students like me who actively learn something and take advantage of the resources provided, I am told that I should have majored in what — business?

I can only assume that my lack of status on the hierarchical totem pole of academia is not prestigious enough to deserve a follow-up. Or President Hitt was just too busy. 

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16 comments

Anonymous
Thu Nov 11 2010 21:32
Thanks for the laughs!
Anonymous
Sat Oct 9 2010 19:18
"President Hitt admits that liberal arts majors have no job demand. SO WHY OFFER THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE?"

Perhaps because not everyone is interested in becoming an engineer? It's sad that the concept of studying what you love is so alien to some people.

Anonymous
Sat Oct 9 2010 17:57
President Hitt admits that liberal arts majors have no job demand. SO WHY OFFER THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Anonymous
Fri May 7 2010 15:21
damn it, i knew studying ancient egyptian paintings, and minoring in greek methology while playing the saxophone wouldnt get me a job! what was i thinking!!!
Anonymous
Wed Feb 10 2010 19:47
Why her argument doesn't make sense:
a) She said that she wanted to go to law school yet she's seeking UCF's help to get a job. Shouldn't she have applied to law schools and not be worried about jobs at this point? She should be on her way to continuing her education in law school.

Here are additional flaws:
a) She does not suggest how UCF should help her. Yes she wants a job, but what does UCF need to do in order to help her get one? If somebody told me to find a job for a women's studies major I wouldn't know where to start. Should the teachers be required to tell the students on the first day of class that you're likely in a dead end major?
b) She glorifies president Hitt. Do you realize that his main job is to hire people who actually do work? For instance, he didn't lead the development of our Medical school, Dr. German did. President's Hitt's job is just to be a pretty face that talks like a politician and gets UCF donations.
c) I have a Masters in Engineering from a more prestigious school than UCF and a Bachelors in Mechanical Engineering from UCF. I also have 2 years of work experience, had countless of projects, 3 internships while in college, and I worked 2 jobs during college. I also had a 3.8 in a major much more difficult than Women Studies. It took me 1 year to find a job after I was laid off. She's been searching for 4 months and has already written an article.

Sadly, the blame does lie on her for not understanding that there is no career path in women's studies. A 3.9 isn't exactly a prized GPA in those programs. Some UCF programs like Elementary education and liberal studies boast an average GPA of 3.7 as shown on UCF's recent report on what programs to eliminate. Your actual career path with that major, no matter what your GPA, will likely be burger flipper. Take the LSAT and apply for law school. Otherwise you're simply screwed.

Anonymous
Tue Feb 9 2010 23:41
If anyone here thinks that getting an engineering or science degree is "just getting a technical degree" then their view is deeply flawed. I resent the fact that the only thing that came to her mind was "should I have majored in business". No. Not at all. That major is equally flawed as philosophy. Stop pissing about with this shit, you're wasting society's time. Instead of working on a degree that poses questions about thinking about thinking about thinking about doing things, why don't you actually go out and do something, build something that enhances and furthers society. You're limiting your own potential by deciding that you need to think about the universe rather than changing it.

Honestly, this girl needs to suck it up. It's a rough economy, and people aren't exactly looking for more people to waste more of society's time with ideologies, you'll only further polarize us with that rabble. Maybe you could have afforded to diversify your interests into an applicable field, or maybe you ought to just concede and return to the complaining muck of society where you belong.

Pretentious McPretentiouson
Tue Feb 9 2010 14:15
i, too, wonder why my triple major in women's studies, homosexual culture, and violin playing has not landed me a job yet. THANKS A LOT, UCF.
Anonymous
Tue Feb 9 2010 12:33
A philosophy degree provides students the tools to think critically about themselves and their surroundings; these students tend to already consider answers to such questions as “Who am I?” “Why am I here (professionally or spiritually)?” “Why was I born into this particular body into these particular circumstances?” Luckily this process forces one to have a “mid-life crisis” in one’s early 20s, which allows one to avoid spending the next twenty years doing something with no greater purpose/fulfillment. (They also tend to have the highest scores on the LSAT, GRE, and MCAT tests for Law/Graduate/Medical school.)

I doubt the author of this article wants any sort of handout from UCF’s president; Arielle is a resourceful, independent woman who will become a great lawyer one day. I think the greater issue here is the disconnect between community and education. Perhaps as a philosophy, English, WS, etc major, one is used to the community developed in the classrooms and departments. Teachers in these field tend to become long-term (maybe even lifetime) mentors and fellow academics with their students; these students are lucky to have this last remnant of a true education in this college-as-business age.

As a young professor, my college has a lot of professional development classes towards re-building that post-graduation connection with students. It all starts with day one in the classroom (building lasting connections with people). People are more likely to succeed in these sorts of academic communities.

It is important to appreciate both, the process of science and the process of art, and the way that both impact humanity.

Anonymous
Mon Feb 8 2010 21:17
This is coming from a Political Science student in response to:

"Maybe we should ALL just become business, engineering, and computer science majors. Then MAYBE the demand for philosophy, sociology, and the humanities will increase. eh?"

Maybe don't go to a university that has such developed business, engineer, and computer science programs. Instead of checking out the dorms and the location, maybe the programs in place in the university and the attention they receive should have weighed in?

Anonymous
Mon Feb 8 2010 14:55
Buyer beware. At UCF, students exchange their time and money for knowledge of their choice. At no point does UCF guarantee a job to students of ANY major post-graduation. The business and engineering students have to find their own jobs as well, they are not handed a diploma along with a work contract and high paying job. Choose your path, work to the best of your ability, earn what you can, and keep your eyes open to opportunity. Seek out opportunity, it will not come find you.
Anonymous
Mon Feb 8 2010 14:53
Anyone who considers Philosophy to be an "easy" major has CLEARLY never taken a Philosophy class. "Not everyone is smart enough" to recognize that intelligence is measured in multiple ways and that each major contributes to our culture as a whole. I would hate to live in a place where everyone was a CS or Engineering major (not only b/c of the lack of diversity, but the lack of VISION that an absence of multiplicity brings) or where the only jobs available were in the computer or construction industry. We are so sold by our university's business model that we convince ourselves that those who do not pursue "practical" majors are inferior or deserve to be in a bad position post-graduation. (And btw, one does not just START law school; one has to take the LSAT and apply, creating a lag sometimes between UCF and law school). Our social values have now become a business model themselves. Those who defend this perspective clearly have no desire to provide a rich, compassionate, and diverse world for their children to grow up in, and obviously have no problem with the fact that our wealth is distributed so unfairly, valuing software development over education or childcare (not to undermine technology but to call attention to the value of underrespected professions). And on another note, just what DO we pay President Hitt SO MUCH MONEY for if not to assist students pre- and post-graduation? As a full-time faculty member at UCF, I am personally appalled at the discrepancy between his salary and ours, particularly considering the tuition hikes, increased class sizes, and the fact that most faculty haven't seen a raise in at least three years.
NikkiNicho
Mon Feb 8 2010 14:25
Awesome article Arielle :D
I wish I had read this before the open forum last week.
Beha
Mon Feb 8 2010 14:06
When choosing a major, one must ask themselves a series of questions. 1. Am I interested in this major? 2. Could I envision myself doing this for the rest of my life. 3. Is there a viable market that holds a demand for my major. Clearly, no one explained the necessity of a "yes" answer for the third question. You can take every class you could ever dream of in a major that interests you, but if there is an air of uncertainty as to whether or not you will have a job waiting for you by the end of your term at UCF, you might want to reconsider.

I would know. I was a film major, but changed my major to education when I realized a job far outweighed my interests. I chose a major that I could expand in and explore my hobbies with ease and further down the road perhaps utilize my career to launch myself into the film industry. Your fatal mistake was a failure to plan, not a failure by the University.

Anonymous
Mon Feb 8 2010 13:24
So, just because UCF has corporate donors for their business and engineering programs, which helps guarantee jobs, it is her fault? Just because the University doesn't have massive social science donors, does that allow the University to throw those kids under the bus? Sure, engineering and business courses aren't for everyone. But, neither are political science and philosophy courses. So, for you to belittle someone's education just because you believe something is harder, and not worth as much is disgusting.

It's infuriating how education has stopped being about creating well-rounded, knowledgeable, citizens and more about creating specialized workers. This isn't something unique to UCF but it's symptomatic of higher education in this country. How are students supposed to react when an institution they have dedicated so much time and money to suddenly stops caring about them?

Maybe we should ALL just become business, engineering, and computer science majors. Then MAYBE the demand for philosophy, sociology, and the humanities will increase. eh?

Anonymous
Mon Feb 8 2010 12:11
Colleges are in business to make money (that's how they pay Hitt $450k). The more students they attract, the more money they make. College isn't for everyone, and it only guarantees jobs for people who get degrees in difficult programs such as Engineering, Computer Science, etc. Not everyone is smart enough to complete those degree programs, but are still willing to pay money for "higher education." So they offer easier programs such as Philosophy to attract more students (aka more money). They don't care if you choose a major that has zero real world practicality, they just want your money. At the end of the day, it is your fault. You should have realized that majoring in Philosophy would maybe only guarantee you a job as a waitress.
Anonymous
Mon Feb 8 2010 09:20
It is not Dr. Hitt's job to get a job for every graduate. I'm not sure what you thought he could do for you, but his suggestion that you needed to study a more profitable area is very true. I received my degree in a humanities field and I did not expect to get a job in my field immediately after college. I knew I would either need to go to grad school or take a job that was not in my field. It is not the job of the university president to answer to every graduate. Do you know how many people gradutate from UCF in a year? Do you really expect him to be able to cater to every single one? Don't be naive. You mention going to law school, why aren't you doing that instead of hanging around UCF hoping to get a job. The whole purpose of college is to go, get a degree and LEAVE, not hang around and harass the president because he can't find you a job in a field without a lot of demand.






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