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New proposal: forfeit dollars to visit felons

Guest Columnist

Published: Sunday, September 18, 2011

Updated: Sunday, September 18, 2011 16:09

Can somebody call our governor and let him know about this? Here is a plan suffering from such "reasonableness and "practicality," I can hardly contain myself. In the state of Arizona, Gov. Jan Brewer has proposed a fabulous idea: have everyone forfeit their cash to visit felons in jail.

Brewer, along with a few men in suits, recommended to fellow lawmakers to pass a bill that would help balance their state's budget. Each person would have to "cough up" $25 to visit their incarcerated offspring, significant others, sister's cousin's friend's uncle's brother — you get the idea.

So, here's my query: could this work in Florida and is it ethical?

Without sounding patronizing, I think it's necessary to differentiate between jails and prisons. I thought they were both the same, including the interior decorating, but apparently they're not.

The most prominent dissimilarity between types of confinement would fall under who controls what. Jails are usually handled by the county; prisons are managed by the state. Florida does have six privately run prisons, but we won't go into that – they're just little ones with shinier bars.

First revealed in an article by AZFamily, certain lawmakers in Phoenix are pushing so a fee will be required by law for anyone going to visit an inmate in prison. The fee will be reasonable and would be about $25. Everybody, including next of kin will be subject to paying the tariff in exchange for visitation. There is also a proposal to start charging a 1-percent fee on any and all monies put into inmate bank accounts.

"The prison system costs the Arizona taxpayer about $1 billion a year, and visitation is a privilege," Arizona Department of Corrections Director Charles L. Ryan said.

Now, before all the "goody two-shoes" types get bent out of shape with legalities and civil liberties, let's dissect this one before responding.

According to the Florida DOC, there are 144 prison facilities that are divided into major institutions: annexes, work camps, work release centers and road prisons throughout the state. The major institutions incarcerate 85.2 percent of the state prison inmates. These facilities incarcerate only those inmates convicted and sentenced to more than a year.

The Florida Department of Corrections is the third-largest state prison system in the country with a budget of $2.4 billion, just over 102,000 inmates incarcerated and another 115,000 offenders on active community supervision.

And yes, those numbers are prodigious. That's far too many offenders for our sunny state of Florida.

So who really does pay for our convicted outlaws? Why, you do. You, the honest tax paying and law-abiding citizen. Marvelous, pat yourself on the back. Oh wait! Here's the fun part: the invoice. How much is how much?

The DOC listed the expense to the state of Florida per inmate as "$19,469 a year, or $53.34 a day."

Yes – that's where your tax dollars are going. If only we could pump that kind of currency into our education system instead.

Truly, I think Brewer has drawn up an ingenious blueprint. Charge the visitors to visit. Why not? I can't find anything morally wrong with it. After all, is it not only fair to pass the convicted felons tab to the convicted felons?

Personally, I don't care if the felon's "bill" becomes a burden to them or their family members. They didn't seem too concerned when they "flouted" the rules and went "gallivanting" on their crime spree, now did they?

Truthfully, the only money I don't mind tendering is for death row. My tax-paying dollars are put to good use here; $40 is the maximum cost of that final meal.

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6 comments

Anonymous
Tue Sep 20 2011 00:03
All I can say is...LADY..YOU'RE AN IDIOT, and so is anyone who would even think the way that you do!!! Before you write anymore articles like these..do your research!!! THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE THIS SORT OF TRASH!! Hope one of your loved one ends up in prison, so you can better understand what we as loved ones of those who are incarcerated have to endure!!! Or better yet..I hope one of your loved ones goes to death row..so you can feel satisfaction of where your tax dollars go!!!
Anonymous
Mon Sep 19 2011 14:32
I had to sit for a while to think about how to respond to such a rediculopus idea. Doesn't this person know that the families of the inmates are also tax payers, so is she saying we should pay twice??? Many of the inmates have childre, lets not forget that either. Who do they think helps the inmates when they get out to keep them from reoffending. It is not the State, DOC, or even thier probabtion officer. It is the family. The people that were behind them while they were incarcerated. This is carzy, society has no idea what it costs families to try and help thier loved ones that are on the other side. in my case, they wanted him there for a stupid mess-up, no threat to society, so, let them pay also. This is not the answer. How about start giving time for good behavior and letting some of the non-violent inmates come home. Start looking to the Governement to cut the costs. Oh, no we can't do that someone might lose thier job by giving a person another chance. They may actually turn out to be a productuve member of society. I guess we can just let them sit in there and rot. That is the right thing to do !!!! ignorant people in society like this makes me sick. They have no clue what this does to a family, mentally, physically or financially.
Anonymous
Mon Sep 19 2011 13:34
I wonder if her tune would change if it were her son or daughter that was incarcerated. Oh wait, she would probably pay off the judge and her child would never see the inside of a jail cell or prison. One thing that she is forgetting is no matter what a person does, they are still human. I will keep her in my prayers that she herself or one of her family members do not get caught and get incarcerated.
Anonymous
Mon Sep 19 2011 13:25
What kind of monsterous idiot is this woman? Wives and mothers and grandmothers (or husbands, fathers and greandfathers) should ALL be penalized because their loved one bought a $20.00 bag of weed? In Florida that is an automatic 5 years. The state and the morons that chose to back these draconian laws are comfortable with spending over $100K to incarcerate someome for a $20.00 bag of weed and so NOW they think they should be able to bleed these 'dangerous felons' families?

Floridiots are too stupid to realize that 98% of these felons walk back out the door and into society and the ONLY way these people can STAY out of prison is with the decided backing of their family. And now they want to make sure that in that 5 years the familial backing no longer exists.

"YIPEE... we get to imprison another one" seems to be their rallying cry. To which sane people can only respond "WTF?"

It is the likes of this 'commentary' and those that would espouse this filth that we chose to leave Florida. I may pay more in taxes here - but I don't have to live around the likes of these. Makes my skin crawl.

Anonymous Ph.D.
Mon Sep 19 2011 06:51
Unbelievable. Inmate families (who are not the ones convicted) are already suffering from high collect call telephone rates and the support they need to post to their loved ones' accounts (high fee for that, too) so they don't have to survive on the soy crap they serve inside. They pay obscene rates for gasoline to reach prisons that too often are hundreds of miles away. Once there they pay high prices for vendor machine food in the visitor park. DOC does everything but syphon the gas out of their cars in the parking lot to scalp what it can from families already struggling in this economy with unemployment and insufficient income. Statistics show that inmates who retain contact with their loved ones will better adjust once they're released (and remember most of them WILL be released) and it's in the best interest of public safety to encourage this. What is clear from this piece is the author has no contact with inmates -- who are real people, not TV-exaggerated bad guys, and most are in for nonviolent crimes. Their punishment is the loss of freedom. Exacerbating it with further isolation will backfire. And DOC would have plenty of funds if they got rid of all the corrupt staff who are pocketing contract funds.
Anonymous
Mon Sep 19 2011 04:37
Oh so you didn't have any thing else to write about... guess what family members and friends of inmates pay threw the nose to visit inmates they pay each and every day to get calls to drive to the prisons that are at times hours away from their homes to have to put up with holier then tho worthless guards that think they are better then everyone else GUESS WHAT WE ALSO PAY TAXES WE ARE NOT ALL FELONS!! and you are saying there is over 102,000 inmates here guess what there are more of us then you might guess out here holding down jobs and paying our taxes but then you don't care about them... Ok then look at it from this stand point... you want to charge us well what happens if you do that and we stop visiting?! you got 102,000 pissed off inmates that just might be pissed off enough to come out here and pay the state of FL back for what they did... hummm... now look at it from their point of view after all they don't need to have visits they don't need to have any contact with family... we know where they are its all good till they come home... home to where?! what happens to all those men and women that have had no contact with those that just might help them to not break the law again?! Oh I'm sorry they are NOT THERE!!!! BECAUSE THE STATE OF FLORIDA WANTS TO MUCH MONEY!!!

And I resent you coming in here and putting this crap on here!! And guess what the only difference between them and you is you haven't been caught and with living in this state its only a matter of time till you are caught and jailed as inmates, though you don't see it, are a money making business in this state!!!! Why do you think they are screaming over the privatizing of prisons!?





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