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Remove intrusive red light cameras

Published: Sunday, March 20, 2011

Updated: Sunday, March 20, 2011 13:03

Orlando is known for its careless drivers, numerous collisions and long traffic jams.

One way state officials have tried to combat these problems and others state-wide is through red light cameras, but it doesn't solve the problem.

On March 18, a Florida House committee voted to outlaw the red light cameras, which were only installed last year. Although many doubt that the law will pass through Legislature, we hope for its success.

Red light cameras seem like they would be a good measure to prevent motorists from running red lights and cut down on the number of traffic accidents, but there are several other factors to consider.

Studies have found that — aside from rear-end collisions, red light cameras actually do reduce the number of traffic accidents, especially fatal ones.

We're obviously not proponents of running red lights — it's extremely dangerous and downright stupid, but we would prefer if the state would take different measures to ensure our safety at intersections that don't invade our privacy or levy outrageous fines.

Most people don't intentionally run red lights. It's generally someone who thought they had enough time to make the light but it changed color when they were almost safely across.

The reason most people dislike red light cameras is because they feel it's an invasion of privacy to have your photo taken while you're in your car. Oddly enough, this is also one of the main reasons drivers have the tickets successfully thrown out in court.

If the photo is blurry or the driver can prove that he or she couldn't have possibly been behind the wheel at the time, then they are not forced to pay the ticket or reveal who was driving.

In West Palm Beach, for example, so many motorists disputed their tickets in court that they were actually forced to hire additional members of their legal staff who represents red light ticket cases in civil court.

For most cities, the cost of court cases is hardly a bother considering how much profit these devices rake in.

According to an Orlando Sentinel article, between July 2010 and February 2011, the state has gained $8.4 million from tickets issued by red light cameras. We must also add that only $83 from each $158 ticket goes to the state.

Some speculate that these large numbers have inspired city legislators to up the ante and add red light cameras in non-dangerous intersections in order to cash in even further.

There's no excuse to intentionally run a red light. If you're really in that much of a rush you should plan some extra time for your daily commute. A few extra minutes at a stop light isn't worth risking your life.

The law to remove red light cameras at intersections is still working its way through the legal system but we hope to see it pass. As much as we hate the crime, we do not support the use of red light cameras and we feel that creating a longer all-red interval at dangerous intersections would be a better alternative.

As opposed to the less-than-two-second interval between green lights at intersections, extending the length by a couple of seconds is a safe and cheap way to reduce incidents.

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8 comments

Anonymous
Thu Apr 14 2011 15:18
These cameras do work, i have lived in the north east where we have them and they do work. They also do not dismiss those cases just because you say it was not you the one driving, its your vehicle you are rsponsible for it. If they wouldn't be dismissed they would bring in a lot more revenue to the city. They make drivers less wreckless, if the driver knows that he/she will have to pay a fine if they run a red light they won't do it. I see drivers speed up at the yellow light, yellow means slow down not speed up. if you slow down on yellow and stop at red you will not get that fine. Why would someone be against this? I guess this is better, since cops dont enforce traffic laws down here in south florida...
Anonymous
Tue Mar 22 2011 09:35
The camera doesn't give tickets to people who "thought they had enough time to make the light but it changed color when they were almost safely across." It only tickets those that enter the intersection after the light has turned red. Also "adding two seconds" to the "all red" light cycle may sound like it's not that long, but you have to multiply that by how many individual cycles there are {turning left, N/S, etc} this could add like 15 seconds or and this would cause traffic to back up significantly. I don't want to have to wait at lights even LONGER just because some people want to be able to get away with running red lights.
Anonymous
Mon Mar 21 2011 14:12
The article got the basic facts wrong, the state makes nothing from the red light cameras, they are run by the counties. Infact, FDOT doesn't allow red light cameras on state roads (which addresses the comment about road choice above, it can't go on any SR like 50 or 434 (Alafaya). Also, privacy isn't a concern, most new intersections use cameras to trigger the length of the light cycles and improve traffic flow, and nobody is against that.
Agreed
Mon Mar 21 2011 11:33
The peron that worte this did no research. Pictures invasion of privacy??? How bout tolled roads idiot.

Also, "driver can prove that he or she couldn't have possibly been behind the wheel at the time, then they are not forced to pay the ticket or reveal who was driving." - The plate is still registered to you! Good luck in court!

And State President J Willie - get your damn schools right!

Anonymous
Mon Mar 21 2011 10:30
Red light running is a serious problem in Orlando. It's not accidental, and it's not just people speeding through on yellow. There is usually a couple of seconds gap between one direction turning red and another turning green. When you have a green light and cross traffic is still blowing through, you know they ran the light on red. I see this every day at almost every intersection and there is rarely any enforcement. It's easier getting speeders.

The thing about red light cameras that bothers me is the placement. Supposedly, Orange County did studies to determine the worst intersections. Two of last red light cameras installed were northbound at Rouse & University and northbound at Dean & University. Really?! Their studies didn't find worse intersections? East and west bound at both intersections is worse. What about Alafaya & University in any direction or SR 50 & Alafaya in any direction? At SR 50 & Alafaya, you see 3 or 4 cars run reds every time the light changes. It's obvious someone who doesn't drive in these areas chose the placement or that the placement isn't really about safety.

Anonymous
Mon Mar 21 2011 02:19
it is not so much the privacy as it is wrong to ticket a vehicle owner for something another driver did. It is wrong to presume guilt and make a person prove innocence. It is wrong to force me into an accident when I see the guy behind me is going to hit me if I don't go a few feet further before stopping. It is wrong to say no points on your license if you pay up, but if you try to prove your innocence and some slick lawyer or bad tempered judge says you are guilty, you get points on your license as a result of trying to defend yourself. It is wrong for camera companies to set up fake front organizatons and do studies with bad data to try and trick lawmakers into keeping the red light cameras, just as it was wrong to do the same to convince them to allow the cameras. This is a dirty sneaky bunch of vultures trying to profit off the people of this state. Boot them out of here NOW.
Anonymous
Sun Mar 20 2011 20:59
This article is retarded. Follow the law and you won't get a ticket! Is it so bad for them to try and get people to drive more defensively? Perhaps to stop when they see a yellow light rather than speeding up?

And honestly, invasion of privacy? Should I start suing everyone that looks in my windows as I drive around? Because they are certainly getting a better view of me than that camera gets.

I agree in part that at times it's not the drivers fault, I know I have ran a red light because I didn't even see the traffic light - once. But honestly I would rather have young drivers with no sense of responsibility learn their lesson this way rather than being t-boned because they gun it when they see a yellow light.

Anonymous
Sun Mar 20 2011 17:15
Great article, the Florida Civil Rights Association, the National Motorists Association, website; banthecams.org and the Libertarian Party of Florida invite USF students (individuals or groups) to join our fight to Repeal Florida Red Light Camera Law.

Contact

J Willie David, III
State President
Florida Civil Rights Association
www.fcranews.com
info@fcranews.com
(407) 272-9254





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